Session Start: Tue Apr 15 21:51:59 2008

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[21:58] <mickey_mixon> hi Kelvin, Tim

[22:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello kelvin, mickey

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[22:05] <Angelica_Gwinn> hiiiiiii

[22:06] <Angelica_Gwinn> I NEED HELP

[22:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello angelica

[22:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Welcome to the chat Kwirc. If you click on the gear at the top you can change to your first name, please.

[22:07] <Angelica_Gwinn> hiiii Tim

[22:07] <kelvin--brown> hello wonderful people

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[22:07] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Kelvin

[22:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello dale

[22:07] <Dale_Cable> hi everyone

[22:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica what do you need help with

[22:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> have you all seen the "notes from tim" in your admin area today

[22:08] <Angelica_Gwinn> you are going to kill me if I told you :)

[22:08] <Dale_Cable> yes tim

[22:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, well, i don't want to  kill you,  so ......

[22:09] <Angelica_Gwinn> I know the templates are there for us non-techs

[22:09] <kelvin--brown> do u mean happy birthday to Tim

[22:09] <Angelica_Gwinn> Happy B'da Tim

[22:09] <kelvin--brown> Happy BD tim

[22:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> well, its not my birthday till the 27th, but i was referring to the special to call businesses

[22:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thanks

[22:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 1 year away from 50

[22:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yuck

[22:10] <Angelica_Gwinn> if I create a premium listing using the templates do I still have the top and bottom parts to work with?

[22:10] <Angelica_Gwinn> I hear your pain Tim

[22:10] <kelvin--brown> oh yes, that to

[22:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica yes,

[22:10] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok

[22:11] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica you have the top box and bottom box that shows only on the power page, no matter if you use the templates, or the advanced html

[22:11] <Angelica_Gwinn> now I want to use a real time html editor so that I see what I am doing - I found one but very limited - you have to scroll up and down in the page

[22:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, all you have to do is open up your .html page you are working on in your browser

[22:12] <Angelica_Gwinn> huh?

[22:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if you are working on a file on your computer, for webpage, it probably ends in .html right?

[22:13] <Angelica_Gwinn> can the page be in ms word

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> no

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thats binary

[22:13] <Angelica_Gwinn> but if I do in ms word then I can save as html

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yes a text file such as notepad or wordpad

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> well thats tru

[22:13] <Angelica_Gwinn> what program do I use to create the blank html file?

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> sigh

[22:14] <Angelica_Gwinn> I told you

[22:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> notepad or wordpad

[22:14] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok

[22:14] <Angelica_Gwinn> this is going to be interesting Tim

[22:16] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Welcome to the chat Kwirc. If you click on the gear at the top you can change to your first name, please.

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[22:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello danielle

[22:17] <Danielle_Danko> hi Tim

[22:18] <Danielle_Danko> Hello everyone

[22:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica after you create the file, the go to your browser, click on "file" at the top, then "open" then look for the file on your computer and open it.  you can then see the html as it will look in a browser

[22:18] <Dale_Cable> hi danielle

[22:19] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok Tim - inserted a picture and I can see it now

[22:19] <Angelica_Gwinn> what I am having difficulties with is sizing

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, do you know what the pixel size of the picture is?

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> are you trying to change the picture size?  

[22:20] <Angelica_Gwinn> they are hugh I have 32 images -  a chair in the middle of an 8.5x11 page

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> are you trying to change the picture size?  

[22:21] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica?

[22:21] <Angelica_Gwinn> I have to group them into categories - resize them to create a ratating gif file but I have to determine size first to see how the page is going to look

[22:22] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, so you are trying to determine the size you want to resize it to?

[22:22] <Angelica_Gwinn> so I don't know what came first the chicken or the egg

[22:22] <Angelica_Gwinn> yes

[22:22] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, just change the parameters in the image tag

[22:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but you will sitll need to use a graphic program to resize the picture so that it does not take so long to download

[22:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i am referring to the width and height parameters

[22:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> do you know what i mean?

[22:23] <Angelica_Gwinn> I know how to resize it, I have not determined yet what size because I don't know how is going to look on the page

[22:23] <Angelica_Gwinn> yes Tim

[22:24] <Angelica_Gwinn> so I am trying to visualize it on the page first and then figure out what size that will be

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you can do that by changing width="200" height="200"

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> to whatever

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[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> inside the <img src="picture.jpg" width="200" height="200">

[22:25] <Angelica_Gwinn> and the images will adjust accordingly?

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yes

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but you will sitll need to use a graphic program to resize the picture so that it does not take so long to download

[22:25] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> after you figure out the size you want

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> this is better:   <img src="picture.jpg" width="200" height="200" border="0" alt="description of picture here">

[22:26] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok

[22:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> and of course, if it is in your user images folder, at http://paramusportal.com/user_images/

[22:26] <Angelica_Gwinn> this is a full time job Tim :)

[22:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you would make it

[22:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr>   <img src="http://paramusportal.com/user_images/picture.jpg" width="200" height="200" border="0" alt="description of picture here">

[22:27] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> html is one of the very simplest parts of websites

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> it took me 2.5 hours to learn it

[22:27] <Angelica_Gwinn> yes to you techies

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i am not a techie

[22:27] <Angelica_Gwinn> I am a number geek

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> in 1991 i could not even turn on a computer

[22:28] <Angelica_Gwinn> I'll know I'll get it - pressure is on - I am getting the hang of things

[22:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, did you read my basic HTML you need to know for building listings from scratch in the portal director manual?

[22:28] <Angelica_Gwinn> I am a perfectionist - that works against me

[22:29] <Angelica_Gwinn> not yet, I figured let me get the money in first :), but now I have to, does that mean I can use that in the power page?

[22:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ?

[22:30] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> instead of just retyping it all here, i will just refer you to the HTML section in the manual,

[22:30] <Angelica_Gwinn> build the listing from scratch - I get it

[22:30] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> everytying I just told you here is in the manual

[22:30] <Angelica_Gwinn> I should read that first huh?

[22:30] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> uh huh

[22:30] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> smack

[22:30] <Angelica_Gwinn> I've been surviving like a monkey see monkey do

[22:30] <Angelica_Gwinn> :)

[22:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> well that will get you started, then from there you can learn by lookign at websites

[22:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, hows your sales going this week with the tax time?

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[22:32] <Angelica_Gwinn> I have the concept in my head - just have to figure out how to put in the notepad - position - size - colors - background - fonts

[22:32] <Angelica_Gwinn> please tell me to KISS

[22:32] <John_Gosselin> Hi Everyone!

[22:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, everytying I just told you here is in the manual

[22:32] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi John

[22:32] <Danielle_Danko> hi john

[22:32] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok I'll look out now

[22:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> did you all see my letter this week about economy improving in march

[22:33] <Angelica_Gwinn> yes!!! thank you Tim

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yw

[22:33] <Danielle_Danko> yes

[22:33] <Angelica_Gwinn> attitude!

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> NEWS ALERT

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> from The Wall Street Journal

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> April 14, 2008

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> U.S. retail sales took a surprising turn upward during March, a promising sign for the economy given the punishment consumers have absorbed. Retail sales increased by 0.2%, the Commerce Department said.

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> For more information, see: http://wsj.com?mod=djemalertNEWS

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> also I wanted to show you this:

[22:34] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 4/14/2008:  "Among the players battling over Yahoo, there's a likely common assumption: Major brand advertisers are gearing up to move big chunks of money from traditional ads including TV commercials and glossy magazine spreads to online outlets such as video-sharing services and Web sites for women. Although online ads garnered only an estimated 7% of total U.S. advertising dollars last year, Internet companies believe the percentage will increase sharply as Americans ratchet up their daily use

[22:34] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr>  of the Web and advertisers gain confidence in the medium."

[22:34] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr>  of the Web and advertisers gain confidence in the medium."

[22:34] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120787106613306483.html?mod=e-commerce_primary_hs

[22:34] <Danielle_Danko> brb

[22:34] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok danielle

[22:35] <Dale_Cable> haven't been able to talk to anyone who can buy tim but I have 2 meetings tomorrow

[22:35] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, great! Are we still on for friday morning interview?

[22:35] <Dale_Cable> yes tim

[22:35] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> good

[22:35] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i look forward to it

[22:36] <Dale_Cable> I also have a meeting with a sales lady tomorrow

[22:38] <Danielle_Danko> back

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[22:39] <Angelica_Gwinn> Tim - I know I've seen the html maual but I can not find it

[22:39] <Angelica_Gwinn> :(

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, i forgot we put a filter on it, only those ready to see it can see it

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, great!!

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> he LeTroy

[22:40] <LeTroy> Hello Tim

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, I know its in there, HTML section i think

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i meant, Hello LeTroy

[22:41] <LeTroy> I just wanted to let you know that I will be faxing the check tomorrow

[22:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> LeTroy, great!  welcome!!

[22:41] <John_Gosselin> Welcome LeTroy!!

[22:41] <LeTroy> Thank you. I'm very excited!

[22:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> LeTroy, what town are you going with?

[22:42] <LeTroy> San Francisco, CA

[22:42] <LeTroy> I'm still interested in SS, MD

[22:42] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> LeTroy, what is your level of sales experience?

[22:43] <LeTroy> I'd say better than intermediate

[22:43] <LeTroy> I've sold life ins

[22:44] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> The reason I was asking, is we have 60,000 businesses listed in San francisco, and that would take probably 20 to 30 full time salespeople to handle.  Unless you plan on hiring a sales crew that large over the next few years, I would suggest starting in a smaller suburb ,

[22:44] <LeTroy> I was looking at you Millionaire .com

[22:45] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> well, with san francisco, you should be on teh 5 or 2 year plan for that

[22:45] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if you want to work by yourself, on the 31 or 9 year plan you will not want to take on san francisco

[22:45] <LeTroy> I agree.

[22:45] <LeTroy> Thats what i was thinking

[22:46] <LeTroy> No don't want to work by my self

[22:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> well ok then

[22:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> good luck to you!!

[22:47] <LeTroy> Tha area is much to large and growing

[22:47] <LeTroy> Thank You!

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[22:48] <Danielle_Danko> brb

[22:48] <Paulette_Nurse> Hello everyone!

[22:48] <LeTroy> Hi

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[22:48] <Dale_Cable> hi paulette

[22:48] <John_Gosselin> Hi Paulette & Ed

[22:48] <Dale_Cable> hi ed

[22:49] <Ed_Bremer> hello

[22:49] <Paulette_Nurse> John I will have the final draft ready for tomorrow, busy day at work today.

[22:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello paulette, ed

[22:50] <John_Gosselin> No prob... do I need to send an e-Mail or am I on the list?

[22:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> paulette, ed, did you see the report I sent out this week about the economy improving in march

[22:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> and about the future of advertising on the internet

[22:50] <Paulette_Nurse> Hi Tim, I did you're a busy fellow, interesting specails

[22:51] <Paulette_Nurse> How about a $49.00 PL special

[22:51] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thanks

[22:51] <Danielle_Danko> back- Hello Paulette & Ed

[22:51] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Paulette, I have a $50 PL special

[22:51] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> is that close enough

[22:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> its only good for one time per portal however,

[22:52] <Paulette_Nurse> That's the 2500 upfront special, many of us cannot take advantage of that right now Tim

[22:53] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> paulette, what if I did it for $1250

[22:54] <Paulette_Nurse> Perhaps, not sure but maybe some of will be able to take advantage of that, put it out there lets see what happens

[22:55] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> paulette, last december I did one alacarte, as many as you wanted, 1, 2, 3,

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> LeTroy is new here by the way, he is going to start tommorow as a Portal Director in San Francisco

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Everyone, every Friday there will be a radio show hosted by myself, Timothy L. Drobnick Sr about the Portal Director Business at 11:30 AM to 12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time. You can listen the live show 11:30 AM to 12:30 PM EST Fridays at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Tim-L-Drobnick-Sr I would love it if you would call in during the show to ask questions. If you want to be ON the show, call in to 1(646) 200 0036 while the show is in progress.

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> also

[22:56] <Danielle_Danko> excuse me, but are talking about $1250, and you will double that as far as fees for the portal?

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Everyone, the radio shows are archived for you to listen to online or to download to your iPod to take on the road with you at http://PortalDirectorRadio.com

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> DAnielle, I said what if,  

[22:56] <Danielle_Danko> i know

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if there is enough interest I would do it

[22:57] <Paulette_Nurse> Welcome LeTroy

[22:57] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> and yes it would be doubled

[22:57] <Danielle_Danko> i just didnt know what the whole $pl had to do with that

[22:58] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, its to give a break on getting your busienss started, a 50% discount on the $100 fees per sale.  of course the $197 per month is paying for 2 sales already,

[22:58] <Danielle_Danko> got ya

[22:58] <Paulette_Nurse> Danielle we are give Tim more ways to celebrate his 49th birthday

[22:59] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ha ha

[22:59] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, i may do an alacarte one, but if I do that for my 49th, then I have to do something big for my 50th, so i have to be careful

[22:59] <Danielle_Danko> lol

[22:59] <LeTroy> Thank you Paulette

[23:00] <Paulette_Nurse> Yahoo, cannot wait for #50 to see what you will do

[23:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> speaking of getting old, we have not seen cliff fiveland in a very long time

[23:00] <John_Gosselin> Tim - for your 50th - a year early - give 100 listings free for every portal director we recruit!!  :))

[23:00] <LeTroy> And Happy Birthday Tim! mine was Easter Sunday

[23:00] <John_Gosselin> Retro Active to January.... lol

[23:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Thanks LeTroy, happy birthday to you!  Mine is not till 27

[23:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> John G, do you mean 100 premium listings?

[23:01] <kelvin--brown> I know when Deb's is

[23:01] <John_Gosselin> Sure Tim

[23:01] <kelvin--brown> Bar, oops

[23:01] <kelvin--brown> barb

[23:01] <Danielle_Danko> ohhh, who's deb?

[23:01] <John_Gosselin> Half price for 49th and 100 free for 50th - one year early...

[23:02] <kelvin--brown> i meant Barbara

[23:02] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> she is 5 days after me

[23:02] <kelvin--brown> helps me keep track of my own

[23:03] <kelvin--brown> i have forgotten more than once

[23:03] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> here is a premium listing halle made for barb's new store, http://exploregahanna.com/gahanna-oh-businesses/listings/dj1cln33.html

[23:03] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i have to attach a domain to it yet

[23:04] <Danielle_Danko> gotta go, baby wont sleep.. Gn everyone

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[23:05] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> and yes that is using one of the templates,

[23:06] <LeTroy> Hey Guys gotta go I need to catch up if I'm going to keep up with you guys

[23:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn letroy

[23:06] <LeTroy> Blessings!

[23:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i am going to log out also

[23:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thanks to you all for coming in tonight

[23:07] <LeTroy> Good night alL!

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[23:07] <kelvin--brown> gn

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[23:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn everyone

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[23:08] <Paulette_Nurse> gn everyoone, must finish supper, see you all tomorrow

[23:08] <Dale_Cable> gn all

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[23:09] <John_Gosselin> gn Paulette

[23:09] <John_Gosselin> gn Tim

[23:09] <John_Gosselin> gn LeTroy

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[23:17] <John_Gosselin> gn Everyone - Have a Great Day Tomorrow!!

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