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Session Start: Thu May 08 22:02:17 2008

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[22:02] <T-Rex> Good evening Tim

[22:02] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Tim

[22:02] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi rex, anglelica,

[22:02] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Welcome to the chat Kwirc. If you click on the gear at the top you can change to your first name, please.

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[22:02] <Jonathan_Myers> Hello everyone

[22:03] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Jonathan

[22:03] <T-Rex> Hi Jonathan / Dale

[22:03] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello dale, jonathan

[22:03] <Dale_Cable> hi everyone

[22:03] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Dale

[22:03] <Jonathan_Myers> Tim, still not seeing anything in the contact downloads

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[22:04] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jonathan, they are there, I will log in as you

[22:04] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi rick

[22:04] <T-Rex> Hi Rick

[22:05] <Rick_Warren> Hi All

[22:05] <Dale_Cable> hi rick

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[22:06] <T-Rex> -Hi Kelvin

[22:06] <Dale_Cable> hi kelvin

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[22:07] <Mario_Torres> hi everyone

[22:07] <T-Rex> Hi Mario

[22:07] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Rick, Kelvin, Mario

[22:07] <Dale_Cable> hi mario

[22:07] <kelvin--brown> jello wondeful people

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[22:07] <kelvin--brown> hell0

[22:07] <Rick_Warren> Hi Mario thanks to the answer Hope Tim does let us do it.

[22:07] <T-Rex> Hi Vegas

[22:08] <Vegas_Jim> HI

[22:08] <Dale_Cable> hi jim

[22:08] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Jim

[22:08] <Mario_Torres> Rick he will later on

[22:08] <Vegas_Jim> Hi

[22:08] <Rick_Warren> That's good

[22:09] <Mario_Torres> hi vegas

[22:09] <Vegas_Jim> Hello Mario

[22:11] <Rick_Warren> Tim, have you look at billing ? #1213

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jonathan, check now

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi rick,mario, kelvin, jim,

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Jim Johnson, is Jim Vegas right?

[22:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Jim J is going to take a telemarketing campaign this saturday morning until his phone gets too busy with incoming calls from businesses,

[22:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, i will go look right now

[22:14] <Vegas_Jim> RIGHT VEGAS

[22:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Jim, please change to Jim_Johnson

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[22:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ty

[22:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jim had lunch with me last saturday

[22:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or perhaps I had lunch with him

[22:15] <Jonathan_Myers> Yes Tim, that's better, Thanx

[22:15] <Jim_Johnson> lunch together

[22:16] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, i will fix that billing error on 1213

[22:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> everyone, I got all the code finished for the 16 new rotating ads today, now I am getting it onto the auto installer, iw as hoping to have that finished before this evening, but did not quite get it. I was putting it onto brokenarrowportal.com as a test, maybe rick can check to see if it works in a bit,

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[22:18] <Mario_Torres> Tim I can check for tonight if you want

[22:18] <Dale_Cable> hi mickey

[22:18] <Mario_Torres> hi Mickey

[22:18] <T-Rex> Hi Mickey

[22:19] <Mickey_Mixon> Hi guys, everyone.

[22:19] <Dale_Cable> tim are 16 rotators?

[22:19] <Dale_Cable> all

[22:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, yes i added 16 rotators

[22:19] <Mario_Torres> sorry Tim I can check the busiess card for you tonight if you like

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, if you call can be patient with me, i can load them up manually, it will take me just a bit,,

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi mickey

[22:20] <Mickey_Mixon> hi Tim

[22:20] <Rick_Warren> will check it out when you get it up

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Jim J, do you have all saturday to do this test?

[22:21] <Rick_Warren> also will taken down the error listing from #1213 Just need the one. Hope to get the error fix in the post.

[22:21] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, did you have an apostrophe in your ad?

[22:22] <Jim_Johnson> all sat available

[22:22] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Jim has a lot of sales experience, and he is very smooth and geniuine. I am sure he can give us very good results from this test with the telemarketing.  Naomi's mother is still very ill so I am not going to have Kelly or Naomi on the radio show tommmorrow about the telemarketng test they have been doing.

[22:22] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> great

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[22:22] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> SAturday night maybe we will have some results if you are around, or sunday, or when you can get to the meeting

[22:22] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi donald

[22:23] <Mario_Torres> hi donald

[22:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Dale, you have had 2 positions for the rotating banner cards, with unlimited amount of cards you can rotate.  I told you last night that I got the code fixed and put it in the control panel.  As I was loading it onto the auto installer to put on your portals, I thought, I wonder if they would like to have 16 rotating ads instead of 2?   if you want to see what they will look like on your portal, go to http://exploregahanna.com/  and look on the front page, then click on news and see the 8 tower ads

[22:23] <Jim_Johnson> looking forward to it

[22:23] <donald-crawford> hello

[22:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> and there are 3 on the top of the blog

[22:23] <Jim_Johnson> hey Don

[22:23] <donald-crawford> hello jim

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> If you decided to price the rotating ads as this,

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 1st position monthly $50.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 2nd position monthly $45.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 3rd position monthly $40.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 4th position monthly $35.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 5th position monthly $25.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 6th position monthly $20.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 8th position monthly $15.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 9th position monthly $10.00

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 10th position monthly $5.00

[22:24] <Dale_Cable> hi donald

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> that would yield you $3,920 per month, 100% yours

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> of course you can choose to sell them for whatever you like

[22:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you could even offer one free with every premium ilsting you sell

[22:25] <Jonathan_Myers> Will those be only on the home page?

[22:25] <donald-crawford> hello dale

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jonathan, no

[22:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> JOnathan, they are on front page, on the news, and on the blog

[22:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 5 on the front page, 8 on the news, 3 on the blog

[22:26] <Jonathan_Myers> different on each page, or same on all three pages

[22:27] <Jonathan_Myers> ok

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the ads on the news are tower ads

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> see exploregahanna.com

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i am putting it on brokenarrowportal.com at the moment, but its not there yet

[22:27] <Rick_Warren> No not that I know of. Did not know that the system had add the listing. until I when in to manger listing again and found them

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[22:28] <Mario_Torres> hi Janiece

[22:28] <Dale_Cable> hi janiece

[22:28] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey Mario

[22:28] <Janiece_Thompson> and Dale

[22:28] <T-Rex> Hi Donald / Janiece

[22:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi janiece

[22:28] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey Tim

[22:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, i will have the 16 new ads on your portal in a few mintues

[22:30] <Jonathan_Myers> so there are 4 bc size ads and the center ad on the front page?

[22:30] <Janiece_Thompson> Tim I still haven't been able to log into the support site. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong

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[22:30] <Mario_Torres> hi Ed

[22:30] <Janiece_Thompson> Hi Ed

[22:30] <T-Rex> Hi Ed

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[22:30] <Ed_Bremer> Hello Everyone

[22:31] <Dale_Cable> hi ed

[22:31] <Mickey_Mixon> hi ed.

[22:31] <Ed_Bremer> didn't mean to scare Janiece away

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[22:32] <Ed_Bremer> hi Mickey

[22:32] <Janiece_Thompson> oops

[22:32] <Mario_Torres> Tim i like the ads placement on the news, and the blog

[22:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> janiece, tell me in private the password and email you are using for support

[22:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, good,

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[22:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> its plenty of cheap ads you can sell to help you cover your bills

[22:36] <donald-crawford> are you there jim

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[22:36] <Rick_Caldwell> ge everyone

[22:36] <Ed_Bremer> hi Rick

[22:37] <Mario_Torres> hi Rick

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[22:37] <Dale_Cable> hi rick

[22:37] <Janiece_Thompson> hi rick

[22:38] <Mario_Torres> Rick Suggestion you can change the background of the portal page in the admin

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[22:40] <Rick_Caldwell> Yes, I have done that for branding, matching the color on my business cards and flyers.  Virginia Beach was just rated the #10 green city in the USA!  San Diego is #1

[22:41] <Rick_Caldwell> Or were you talking to Rick W?

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[22:41] <Ed_Bremer> Hi Don

[22:41] <T-Rex> Back in at last

[22:42] <donald_crawford> hello ed

[22:42] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, I missed last night.  Any progress on the control panel for uploading business cards?  I have not found it anywhere in the admin area

[22:42] <Rick_Caldwell> I checked the PD support with no mention of it

[22:43] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick Warren, i just uploaded your rotating ads if you want to help me check it out,

[22:43] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick caldwell, you have had 2 positions for the rotating banner cards, with unlimited amount of cards you can rotate.  I told you last night that I got the code fixed and put it in the control panel.  As I was loading it onto the auto installer to put on your portals, I thought, I wonder if they would like to have 16 rotating ads instead of 2?   if you want to see what they will look like on your portal, go to http://exploregahanna.com/  and look on the front page, then click on news and see the 8 tower

[22:44] <donald_crawford> how does the rotating ads  system work

[22:45] <Ed_Bremer> that's great Rick

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[22:46] <Ed_Bremer> wb kelvin

[22:46] <Rick_Warren> Back kick myself off

[22:46] <kelvin--brown> to a while to realize i was gone

[22:46] <Rick_Warren> Do like the place of the ads

[22:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick Warren, i just uploaded your rotating ads if you want to help me check it out,

[22:46] <Ed_Bremer> yes

[22:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if you go to the admin area, you can edit them by selecting them in the drop down box

[22:47] <Ed_Bremer> great

[22:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, you said you would help me next on them?

[22:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or was that rex

[22:47] <Mario_Torres> right

[22:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[22:47] <T-Rex> Me Too

[22:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[22:47] <Rick_Warren> Has it been update it been done in the admin?

[22:47] <Mario_Torres> I got all night to do it

[22:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick i just updated yours,

[22:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i would like to find bugs before i install it on everyone;s portal

[22:48] <Ed_Bremer> very trick

[22:49] <Rick_Warren> Will check it out. Was updated on portal need see anyting in admin

[22:49] <Mario_Torres> I can check it and give you a report in the morning

[22:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[22:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, you can edit them from the admin now, yes updated in admin

[22:50] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, is that me, Rick C?

[22:51] <Ed_Bremer> Tim-if people cruise the portal & come back to home page -will it be still rotating or start over at #1 ?

[22:53] <Jonathan_Myers> Great job on the rotator Tim, that should give us a kick in the revenue...!

[22:53] <Angelica_Gwinn> thank you Tim

[22:53] <Mario_Torres> Ed as their are now they start with the #1

[22:53] <Ed_Bremer> ok

[22:54] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, I cannot find anywhere in my admin area to load the rotating business cards.

[22:55] <Rick_Caldwell> what am I missing?

[22:55] <Dale_Cable> you don't have it rick c

[22:55] <Rick_Caldwell> NO

[22:55] <Mario_Torres> RIck C  Rick W is the one updated

[22:56] <Dale_Cable> rick warren

[22:56] <Rick_Caldwell> That's what I thought

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick C, Rick W has it,

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i am loading it on marios now

[22:56] <Rick_Caldwell> I've got a lot of cards to upload

[22:56] <Jonathan_Myers> Rick W, check the coupon for Bogey's on your portal, there is a typo in the second instance of "cheeseburger" in the text

[22:57] <Rick_Warren> Mario why do you feel the back round needs to be change?

[22:58] <Rick_Warren> Jonathan, Will make the correction soon. Working on a 4 or July on now

[22:59] <Mario_Torres> its to white a blue or another color would make it look better try it or stay with the white

[22:59] <Janiece_Thompson> Tim I'm sorry but I'm still getting an error msg. I explained it all in the private chat

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[22:59] <Mario_Torres> it's just a suggestion

[23:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, those can be chagned pretty easy, they all pull from yourhometownportal.com however of course you can change them also

[23:01] <Jonathan_Myers> Rick W, I noticed there was a bar code on the coupon, would be great to have one that was actually valid code, wouldn't it?

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[23:03] <Janiece_Thompson> Thanks Tim it worked

[23:03] <Paulette_Nurse> Hello everyone!

[23:03] <Janiece_Thompson> Hi Paulette

[23:03] <Dale_Cable> hi paulette

[23:03] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Paulette

[23:04] <Mario_Torres> hi Paulette

[23:04] <Paulette_Nurse> Sorry i'm late, what did I miss?

[23:05] <Jonathan_Myers> Tim finished code for bc ad rotator, has 16 ads available through 3 pages on your portal

[23:05] <Rick_Caldwell> Hi Paulette.

[23:06] <Jonathan_Myers> view it at: exploregahanna.com

[23:06] <Rick_Caldwell> Actually I've got to go

[23:06] <Ed_Bremer> hi Paulette

[23:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn rick c

[23:06] <Paulette_Nurse> gn Rick

[23:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> paulette, you have had 2 positions for the rotating banner cards, with unlimited amount of cards you can rotate.  I told you last night that I got the code fixed and put it in the control panel.  As I was loading it onto the auto installer to put on your portals, I thought, I wonder if they would like to have 16 rotating ads instead of 2?   if you want to see what they will look like on your portal, go to http://exploregahanna.com/  and look on the front page, then click on news and see the 8 tower

[23:06] <Ed_Bremer> gn Rick

[23:06] <Mickey_Mixon> Me too. gn all.

[23:06] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, when do you think my bc rotator panel will be up and running on VirginiaBeachPortal.com?

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[23:06] <Ed_Bremer> gn mickey

[23:06] <Mario_Torres> gn Rick

[23:06] <Rick_Warren> Mario, will give it some thoughts

[23:08] <Rick_Warren> Jonathan its my understanding that if the clients has a bar code that we can put in

[23:09] <Jonathan_Myers> yes, that would be a plus for the businesses which have a code reader installed

[23:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario the ads are on yours

[23:11] <Jonathan_Myers> getting late for me, I'm up at 5:00 AM, so better go for now. GN everyone

[23:11] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if you go to your admin, select them in the drop down box, you can edit

[23:11] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn jonathan

[23:11] <Ed_Bremer> right on Mario

[23:11] <Ed_Bremer> gn Jonathan

[23:11] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick C, i should have everyones new ads up tommorrow

[23:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rex, you said you would test it also?

[23:12] <Janiece_Thompson> Rick I like your background color

[23:12] <T-Rex> Yes please Tim

[23:12] <donald_crawford> tim how many ads can you put on there now

[23:12] <Mario_Torres> ok will check

[23:12] <Rick_Caldwell> ty

[23:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> donald 16 positions, as many as you like per position

[23:13] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, did you see my Question a few lines up/

[23:13] <Rick_Caldwell> ?

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick C, i should have everyones new ads up tommorrow

[23:13] <Janiece_Thompson> oh so you can have more than 1 bc in each position?

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yes, unlimited,

[23:13] <Rick_Caldwell> ty

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> If you decided to price the rotating ads as this,

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 1st position monthly $50.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 2nd position monthly $45.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 3rd position monthly $40.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 4th position monthly $35.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 5th position monthly $25.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 6th position monthly $20.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 8th position monthly $15.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 9th position monthly $10.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 10th position monthly $5.00

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> that would yield you $3,920 per month, 100% yours

[23:13] <T-Rex> Tim use tauranga as the test

[23:13] <Janiece_Thompson> that's really cool

[23:13] <donald_crawford> price list

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rex, will do

[23:14] <Jonathan_Myers> wow, that is great, I thought just 1 ad per space, great job, Tim!!!1

[23:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> no limit

[23:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> of course, i doubt anyone will want to buy position 100

[23:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but you can put tthem there if you want to

[23:14] <Janiece_Thompson> tim did I read something a bout training material for sales reps?

[23:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> janiece, i am working on an auto training system for sales reps, not cmopleted yet

[23:14] <donald_crawford> tim did you get my message on the phone

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> don, i am says behind on answering voice mail,

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if you need to ask me a private question you can do so by double clicking my name to the right. If course if it is not private, I prefer you ask it here in the main room since it is much easier to handle the conversations with so many people that way.

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> days behind that is

[23:15] <Rick_Warren> Tim have forgot to post We are not able to get into the Blog on Tulsa

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[23:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, ok

[23:18] <Dale_Cable> tim do you have everything you need for my PBC ?

[23:22] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, i need to know  some information they want on there, contact, phone, address, if they have a logo, or if t hey want a certain type of picture,

[23:23] <Dale_Cable> that was ordered from admin page last friday

[23:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, i am sorry, is that in portaldirectorsupport.com

[23:24] <Dale_Cable> admin order PBC

[23:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, it did not come thru,

[23:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if you can give tht to me in PM now i will get it up tommorrow for you

[23:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rex, your ads are on there, i just need to update the index page to your locality

[23:27] <Ed_Bremer> way to go

[23:27] <T-Rex> ok Tim many thanks I will give it a bashing tonight to see if there is any bugs

[23:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[23:27] <Dale_Cable> can you copy the power page thats what I want to use for the header keithhawthornemazda?

[23:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[23:28] <Ed_Bremer> job security Rex -ha

[23:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, i can get that off your portal then

[23:28] <Dale_Cable> ty

[23:29] <T-Rex> haha

[23:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rex your ads are up

[23:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> oh i told you already

[23:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> sorry

[23:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick caldwell did you want to test

[23:32] <Janiece_Thompson> well guys I'm gonna go play with my portal and get to know her real good.

[23:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn janiece

[23:32] <Janiece_Thompson> GN all!

[23:33] <Janiece_Thompson> thanks for you help tim

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[23:33] <Dale_Cable> gn all

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[23:34] <T-Rex> Tim where are the controls for the BCRotatator

[23:35] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, I was finishing a long email.  AS T-Rex asked, where are the controls for the BC Rotator.  I just looked around and still did not see it

[23:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, i have not installed them on the portals yet

[23:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rex, go to admin area, select them in teh drop down box

[23:36] <Mario_Torres> T Rex in the admin pull down menu

[23:36] <Rick_Caldwell> ACtually, Tim, I have a very early morning.  That's right, did you say earlier they will be up tomorrow?

[23:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> they should be

[23:36] <Mario_Torres> Tim working fine so far

[23:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, good,

[23:36] <Rick_Caldwell> ty and gn everyone - again!

[23:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn rick

[23:37] <T-Rex> Ok Tim thanks  The weather when you get a chance Tim

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[23:37] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rex, on it now

[23:38] <Rick_Warren> Tim,  front 4 bc are  300 X 172 - Middle 180 X 172 . Newstower 150 X 300, Blogs 265 X 150 Width X Height?

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[23:38] <T-Rex> Brilliant Tim

[23:39] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, i should have put those on the admin pages as instructions

[23:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> those are correct sizes rick

[23:43] <Rick_Warren> Your front page BCR and working fine all seen to be rotating in in the 30 sec time frame. Well get some up Friday and see how they work

[23:43] <Rick_Warren> GN for Now that Thanks Tim for your hard work

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[23:43] <Rick_Warren> and Thanks

[23:43] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yw rick

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[23:46] <Paulette_Nurse> gn everyone

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[23:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rex, your front page is restored

[23:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> kelvin do you want to test

[23:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario has ads on his already http://puertoricoonline.net/

[23:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, your usa tab has been taken off

[23:49] <T-Rex> Many thanks Tim

[23:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> y

[23:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> w

[23:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ed do you want to test

[23:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if you want two sell only 2 positions you can od that and they will rotate back and forth every 30 seconds

[23:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or 1 position,

[23:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you could sell 10 positions ot the same company and have them rotate among all their ads

[23:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> kelvin,

[23:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, thats a nice 80s' club ad

[23:51] <Mario_Torres> thankd

[23:51] <T-Rex> Guys Will say goodnight  I am off to test thesystem

[23:51] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn rex

[23:51] <Mario_Torres> the usa tap is remove for good?

[23:52] <T-Rex> Gn Tim many thanks

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[23:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario yes, but i can put it back if ou like

[23:52] <Ed_Bremer> YES TIM

[23:52] <Mario_Torres> please do so

[23:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, its back

[23:53] <Mario_Torres> and I'll see you later gonig test the cards

[23:53] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn mario

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[23:55] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ed, have you heard from ferdinando lately?

[23:55] <Ed_Bremer> YES -10 MIN AGO

[23:55] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> tell him i have not heard from him in a very long time

[23:56] <Ed_Bremer> he's going f/t on portal next week -I clued him in on updates

[23:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok thank you

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[00:03] <Ed_Bremer> hello 222

[00:03] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ed, your ads are up

[00:04] <Ed_Bremer> thanks Tim

[00:04] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Welcome to the chat Kwirc. If you click on the gear at the top you can change to your first name, please.

[00:07] <KWirc_222> my batarie went dead this is Marvin i'll say gn all tks

[00:08] <KWirc_222> dumb lap toplol

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[00:13] <Ed_Bremer> is it all good Mario

[00:13] <Mario_Torres> Tim don't up;oad Businss card there is a bug

[00:13] <Ed_Bremer> oh boy

[00:13] <Mario_Torres> Wait untill I check it out

[00:15] <Mario_Torres> the first right card load good but then on the 2 and 3 position on the right side will go to the button left side

[00:16] <Mario_Torres> Ed go are not upload yet right?

[00:16] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[00:17] <Mario_Torres> I be working on it so you ha a report in the moringv

[00:17] <Ed_Bremer> I am but I can't go to my portal

[00:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ty mario

[00:17] <Mario_Torres> anytime

[00:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, cani get you on the radio show with me tommorrow morning

[00:18] <Mario_Torres> ok

[00:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> not for an interview, just so you can talk about these ads, and maybe other chit chat

[00:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> of course if you have any sales recently i can ask you about that

[00:18] <Mario_Torres> no problem

[00:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> what does it cost you to call the states

[00:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Listener dial in number: 646 200 0036

[00:19] <Mario_Torres> I really don't know but it's ok for me to call

[00:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok,

[00:20] <Mario_Torres> its at 11 am right

[00:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 11:30

[00:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> est

[00:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ITS 12:20 est now

[00:20] <Mario_Torres> right same time here

[00:21] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> same longitude then

[00:21] <Mario_Torres> right

[00:22] <Mario_Torres> we don't change our clock like you do

[00:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i don't know why we do, it seems stupid

[00:23] <Ed_Bremer> see ya in the morning guys

[00:23] <Mario_Torres> Well that the goverment for you

[00:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn ed

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[00:23] <Mario_Torres> well see you tomorrow back to the cards

[00:24] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ty mario

[00:24] <Mario_Torres> gn

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[00:54] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi mario

[00:55] <Mario_Torres> Tim sorry made a mistake card in the middle working fine

[00:55] <Mario_Torres> going to check the news and blog now

[01:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> great

[01:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thak s

[01:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thanks

[01:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Listener dial in number: 646 200 0036

[01:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> your cards look nice

[01:05] <Mario_Torres> thanks

[01:06] <Mario_Torres> back later if your here

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[01:34] <Mario_Torres> Tim blog business card working good

[01:35] <Mario_Torres> going to make banner for the news will check later,

[01:35] <Mario_Torres>  the cards

[01:36] <Mario_Torres> forgot to say nice job on this project

[01:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thank you mario

[01:36] <Mario_Torres> see you later

[01:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i like your ads

[01:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> very nice

[01:37] <Mario_Torres> thanks

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[02:18] <Mario_Torres> Tim news business card working also so I suggest go ahead with the uplaods

[02:18] <Mario_Torres> still testing

[02:20] <Mario_Torres> Will post smiple instruction on how to to cards in the forum

[03:22] <Mario_Torres> Done for the night averything is A ok from this side

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[22:04] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello kelvin, rick

[22:04] <Rick_Caldwell> Hi Tim

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[22:04] <Rick_Warren> Hello All

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[22:05] <kelvin--brown> hi tim, rick W, jim

[22:05] <Rick_Warren> got the 1irst to newstower ads up on brokenarrowportal.com

[22:05] <Rick_Warren> seems to be working

[22:05] <Rick_Caldwell> Still can't find BC control panel on admin site.  Where will it be located once it is installed?

[22:05] <Rick_Caldwell> Hi Rick W

[22:05] <Rick_Caldwell> Jim

[22:06] <Rick_Caldwell> Congrats, Rick

[22:06] <kelvin--brown> rick, if u put www. in front of domains those of us using irc can just click on teh link

[22:06] <Rick_Warren> ok

[22:06] <Rick_Warren> www.broenarrowportal.com

[22:07] <kelvin--brown> then of course u have to spell it correctly

[22:07] <Jim_Johnson> hello

[22:07] <kelvin--brown> :)

[22:07] <Rick_Warren> Okies do know how to spell just cant type

[22:08] <Rick_Warren> HA HA

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[22:08] <Rick_Caldwell> Kelvin, I have to install irc each time to get access.  Otherwise, when I click on the Mirc icon, I cannot connect to the server

[22:08] <Rick_Caldwell> GE Dale

[22:08] <Dale_Cable> hi everyone

[22:09] <Rick_Caldwell> Any suggestions?

[22:10] <Rick_Warren> Do have a ? on the link to world new ads on that page are out of wack

[22:11] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello Jim, Rick,, Rick, Dale, Kelvin

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[22:11] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick C that is very odd

[22:11] <Angelica_Away> good evining e1

[22:12] <Rick_Caldwell> Hi Angelica

[22:12] <Angelica_Away> hi Rick

[22:12] <Dale_Cable> hi angelica

[22:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Jim Johnson, will you be ready at 8 AM tommorrow morning? or is 9 better?  8 is good because a lot of receptionists do not come in until 9

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Did you all get a chance to listen to the radio show today?

[22:13] <kelvin--brown> yes

[22:13] <Dale_Cable> yes

[22:13] <Rick_Caldwell> I've reinstalled it several times and teh SAME THING Keep happening.  I can use it the night I reinstall it, but the next nght, I am not connected to the server, and there are no servers listed in the drop down box

[22:13] <Angelica_Away> hi Dale

[22:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick c, i have not heard of that happening before, I don't have an answer for that

[22:14] <Jim_Johnson> 8 is good for me

[22:14] <Jim_Johnson> 8 is good for me

[22:14] <Rick_Caldwell> OK

[22:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jim, great, then maybe we can talk about the results tommorrow evening

[22:14] <Jim_Johnson> for sure

[22:14] <kelvin--brown> rick after install,  after using it that night, ar\e u closing the program

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[22:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Welcome to the chat Kwirc. If you click on the gear at the top you can change to your first name, please.

[22:15] <Rick_Caldwell> Yes

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[22:15] <kelvin--brown> by default, it should reconnect you each time,  u should not have to work about servers in a drop down

[22:16] <Rick_Caldwell> thats what i thought, that all I should have to do is change Nick to /my name each time I log on

[22:17] <Rick_Caldwell> or is it|

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[22:17] <Rick_Caldwell> \

[22:17] <Rick_Caldwell> ge Mario

[22:17] <Mario_Torres> Hi Tim sorry I did not make it to the show, my step daughter got an infection an had to take her to the doctor.

[22:17] <Mario_Torres> hi everyone

[22:17] <Dale_Cable> hi mario

[22:17] <Angelica_Away> hi Mario

[22:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, you should not have to change your nick name yet either

[22:18] <kelvin--brown> forward slash

[22:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> oh you know what

[22:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick c, are you on vista

[22:18] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, I have a weekly meeting EVERY Friday from 9-12:30.  Got to make time to listen to past shows!!!

[22:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Mario, its quite ok, i hope your daughter is ok

[22:18] <Rick_Caldwell> XP, 2

[22:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Everyone, the radio shows are archived for you to listen to online or to download to your iPod to take on the road with you at http://PortalDirectorRadio.com

[22:18] <Rick_Caldwell> Can they be downloaded to any mp3

[22:19] <Mario_Torres> Tim i place instrucion on the forum for the business card

[22:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, that should not be a problem then, vista refuses some writing priveledges inside the programs folders

[22:19] <Rick_Caldwell> not jsut iPod?

[22:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario, thank you, could you please put it in the PortalDirectorSupport.com under technical also,  

[22:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, any mp3 player, or even yoru computer

[22:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you can download the file and listen on your computer without being connected to the internet,

[22:19] <Mario_Torres> ok

[22:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or any mp3 player

[22:20] <Rick_Caldwell> Can it be burned to CD?

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thank you mario,

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i almost have this on the auto installer, i can probably start in a bit giving the new rotating ads to you, rex and mario said no bugs

[22:20] <kelvin--brown> yes, once u download u can burn

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, yes,

[22:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick are you thinking of putting it in your CD player in your car?

[22:21] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, did you see my Q that I still don't see the BC Control panel on my site.  Are you still working on it?

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[22:21] <Rick_Caldwell> Yes, to listen while in the car

[22:21] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick c, i almost have this on the auto installer, i can probably start in a bit giving the new rotating ads to you, rex and mario said no bugs

[22:21] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi jack

[22:21] <Rick_Caldwell> wonderful

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[22:21] <Rick_Caldwell> I have resisted saying Hi Jack

[22:22] <Rick_Caldwell> Hello Jack

[22:22] <Rick_Caldwell> Do you get tired of that greeting?

[22:22] <Dale_Cable> I sold a rotator ad today for 100.00 per month.

[22:22] <Angelica_Away> excellent Dale

[22:22] <Rick_Caldwell> Is that a BC ad, Dale

[22:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Dale, good job!!!!

[22:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Dale, if you sell all the #1 positions at that price you will have $1600 monthly

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[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Dale, good job!!!!

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Dale, if you sell all the #1 positions at that price you will have $1600 monthly

[22:25] <Jack_Piotrow> Hello everyone. I'm a latecomer to the conversation.

[22:25] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi jack p

[22:26] <Jack_Piotrow> Hi Tim. Hope all is well.

[22:26] <Angelica_Away> wb Dale

[22:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yes thank you

[22:26] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale did you see my congrats

[22:26] <Dale_Cable> I plan to sell all front page rotators for that price but only sell 3 per side

[22:27] <Dale_Cable> yes tim

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> dale, so you will rotate only 3 right?

[22:27] <Dale_Cable> yes

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> well then that would be $4800 per month

[22:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> how is that for an economic stimulus package?

[22:28] <Jack_Piotrow> The Feds could learn from you.

[22:28] <Angelica_Away> excellent Tim - thank you

[22:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ha ha

[22:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thanks

[22:29] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, what is the going price for a Power Page if the business does not have a web page?  OR is there another option to develop a web site for them from a different source.  Monthly rate, set up fee $$$???

[22:29] <Dale_Cable> I think thats a good price for front page

[22:30] <Rick_Caldwell> I have spoken with several businesses interested in a web site in addition to a Premium Ad

[22:30] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick C, the power page should be sold along with the premium listing, and I suggest $1000 to $2500 per year total

[22:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the power page is part of our blue funnel concept you can see at http://BlueFunnelConcept.com

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[22:31] <Rick_Caldwell> So the Power Page will be THEIR website?

[22:31] <Mario_Torres> Tim Instruction are in the support under Technical Support.

[22:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario thank you

[22:31] <Rick_Caldwell> Hi Janiece

[22:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi janiece,

[22:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick C, yes the power page can be their website with their own domain name attched to it

[22:31] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey all

[22:31] <Dale_Cable> hi janiece

[22:32] <Rick_Caldwell> Monthly fees, or incorporate into annual price?

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[22:32] <Jack_Piotrow> Welcome aboard Janiece

[22:32] <Janiece_Thompson> Thanks Jack

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[22:32] <Mario_Torres> hi Janiece

[22:32] <Rick_Caldwell> ge Joy

[22:33] <Mario_Torres> Hi Joy

[22:33] <Janiece_Thompson> I had 3 interviews today for sale people

[22:33] <Dale_Cable> hi joy

[22:33] <Joy_Wray> Hello everyone.

[22:33] <Jack_Piotrow> Hi Joy

[22:33] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey Joy

[22:33] <Joy_Wray> What a nice welcome.

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick, you can price it however you like, however, if you explain the premium listing benefits, the blue funnel concept, that they get their own website with their own domain, that you build it completley for them, and that the cost is a total of $1500 per year, it will seem like a very big bargain

[22:33] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi joy

[22:34] <Angelica_Away> hi Joy

[22:34] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> janiece, great!!! How did they go?

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[22:34] <Mario_Torres> You can see the business card in http://puertoricoonline.net check front page, news and blog

[22:34] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, do you have an estimated number of people who have visited all portals for the latest month available?

[22:34] <Janiece_Thompson> I think I have one good prospect

[22:35] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Mario, your cards are very  nice.  Mario, did you realize the moving ad, the fellow with the record, is violation of TOS ?  not to scold you, they are very nice ads

[22:35] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> janiece, very good!

[22:35] <Rick_Caldwell> ty for your answer.  I see various forms of how people charge for a website/power page

[22:35] <Janiece_Thompson> I also have another aquaintance that is currently doing sales who is interested.

[22:35] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Janiece, I have found you usually have to i nterview 10 to get hire 1 salesperson.  and then you have to hire 10 salespersons to find one good one.  so if you have a hire out of the first 3 you are doing excellent

[22:35] <Joy_Wray> Janiece, sounds like you're on fire!

[22:35] <Mario_Torres> did not know it , I'll change the ad

[22:36] <Janiece_Thompson> Yeah you never know

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[22:36] <Janiece_Thompson> Thanks Joy I just want to hit the ground running

[22:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> those numbers may sound discouraging, 10 to hire 1, then hire 10 to find 1 good one.  that means you interview 100 to find 1 good one.  

[22:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but if you set your mind to that, you will not get discouraged,

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[22:37] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello jonathan

[22:37] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if anyone did not hear the show today,

[22:37] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Everyone, the radio shows are archived for you to listen to online or to download to your iPod to take on the road with you at http://PortalDirectorRadio.com

[22:37] <Dale_Cable> hi jonathan

[22:37] <Janiece_Thompson> That's good advice Tim. I'll keep it in mind.

[22:37] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey Jonathan

[22:37] <Joy_Wray> I listened this afternoon.

[22:37] <Jonathan_Myers> Hello everyone

[22:37] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> janiece, its possible you can do better of course

[22:37] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, another q?  Does anyone know the latest stats on the % of people searching the internet for businesses?

[22:37] <Janiece_Thompson> I'm praying

[22:38] <Jack_Piotrow> The show was very good. I listened to it after the fact this noon Pacific time.

[22:38] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick C, 25%

[22:38] <Rick_Caldwell> I agree with you, Janiece

[22:38] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jack, thanks, I hope it was helpful.

[22:38] <Rick_Caldwell> ty Tim, I actually had heard 40%, but no documentation or reference where that figure came from

[22:38] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick C the 25% comes from Yahoo

[22:39] <Rick_Caldwell> ty, Rim

[22:39] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> let me see if they updated that

[22:39] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim,  OOPS my fingers did some walking on the keyboard

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[22:39] <Rick_Caldwell> Welcome, Michelle

[22:39] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick C, that number was for searching local businesses, not just businesses

[22:39] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi michelle

[22:39] <Rick_Caldwell> & Jonathan

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[22:39] <MichelleOusley> Hello Tim & Rick

[22:39] <Jack_Piotrow> It was helpful, Tim, but thanks for alerting me with the phone call this morning.

[22:40] <MichelleOusley> Sorry i'm late

[22:40] <Dale_Cable> hi michelle

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jack, yw,

[22:40] <Janiece_Thompson> Tim I also talked to a woman who might be a good portal promoter. But I could find my way back to the web site that explained it all

[22:40] <Rick_Caldwell> Yes, that was what I am referring ot

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you are ok michelle

[22:40] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey Tim & Rick

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Janiece, it is ExecutivePromoter.com

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> If you find one i will give you a lifetime residual income

[22:40] <Joy_Wray> Tim, you mentioned a couple of times on the radio today about listening to the evening minutes.  Unless I'm not going to the right place, the last post was April 24.  Right?

[22:40] <Janiece_Thompson> Thank you.

[22:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, that may be right, i will update the logs

[22:41] <Joy_Wray> They are very helpful when you post them.

[22:41] <Joy_Wray> Another question.  Why is it so hard to get help on portaldirectorsupport?

[22:41] <Janiece_Thompson> Her name is Nataki Higgins-Montgomery. So if you see her, she's from me

[22:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, hard it which way?

[22:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Janiece, ok thanks

[22:42] <Joy_Wray> Mostly no answers or incomplete answers.

[22:42] <Rick_Caldwell> Tim, another figure I hear all over the place are the number of pages linked to each city portal.  I have seen the figure of 10,000 to 25,000.

[22:42] <Joy_Wray> Are you expecting other pd's to answer our questions?

[22:42] <Rick_Caldwell> What is the correct approx figure?

[22:42] <Janiece_Thompson> I also got a couple of free listings today, Yeah!

[22:43] <Angelica_Gwinn> good for you Janiece!

[22:43] <Rick_Caldwell> That's great!!!

[22:44] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, no, I expect to answer many myself, but I got behind.  HOwever, I have hired Mario, John McQuade, to help answer, but john has had some very serious illnesses, so I am looking at hiring more to help

[22:44] <Janiece_Thompson> Thanks guys I appreciate that!

[22:44] <Angelica_Gwinn> yw

[22:45] <MichelleOusley> Tim, I wanted to schedule a time to speak to you one-on-one via phone. Is that possible?

[22:45] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Michelle, yes, you may call me after the meeting if you like, or give me your number in private and I will give you a call

[22:46] <MichelleOusley> ok, great!

[22:46] <Joy_Wray> It is very frustrating, Tim, and certainly does not build confidence in our product.  There are enough obstacles in the field without feel we lack support at home.

[22:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Regarding tech support in the 24 hour forum, because John has been ill, Angelica is going to start supporting also,

[22:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i just hired her

[22:46] <Mario_Torres> Joy  some question are to answer by tim

[22:46] <Joy_Wray> When?

[22:47] <Mario_Torres> I alway tell tim to take a look He is very busy

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[22:47] <Mario_Torres> I answer a lot of the question every day

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[22:48] <Rick_Caldwell> ge franis

[22:48] <Dale_Cable> hi francis

[22:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> of course I try to be here every night also

[22:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi francis

[22:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Welcome to the chat Kwirc. If you click on the gear at the top you can change to your first name, please.

[22:48] <Rick_Caldwell> Francis

[22:48] <Francis_Charbo> Hi everyone

[22:48] <Francis_Charbo> sorry about the other night, Tim - my power went out

[22:49] <Janiece_Thompson> Hi Francis

[22:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> francis, do you mean leaving the chat?

[22:49] <Mario_Torres>  Joy and if the portal directors read the manuals and see the silde show it would be better

[22:49] <Joy_Wray> So, Tim, here's one of my unanswered questions.  How do you resize a picture for classifieds.  And Mario I have done all of that.

[22:50] <Francis_Charbo> when i was talking to you in private - my power went out

[22:50] <Jack_Piotrow> Tim, I have a few editing suggestions on the presentation booklet. They're not overwhelming, but I feel they are important. How shd I go about getting them to you?

[22:50] <Mario_Torres> I answer that question I recommend getting photo impact or adobe element

[22:51] <Mario_Torres> I can help you out if you tell me what program you are using

[22:51] <Joy_Wray> I have several programs that should work for that without buying something else.  I just need to know what classifieds is looking for.

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[22:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, if you want to resize pictures you need a graphic program

[22:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> I sugggest you use photo impact which you can get a free trial from at ulead.com for 30 days, after that it is or you can get it in a box at best buy. I can help you on it since it is what I use also.

[22:52] <Mario_Torres> First look at the file on top of the program and in a sub menu it will say resize

[22:53] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Jack, you could post them in the 24 hour support under technical, or here,

[22:53] <Mario_Torres> from there you can resize the picture to any size you wnat

[22:53] <Joy_Wray> I have NVU and I have Paint.

[22:54] <Joy_Wray> But what size is acceptable is the question?

[22:54] <Angelica_Gwinn> Joy if I understand you correctly, you want to know what are the parameters allowed on the classifieds section

[22:54] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, I would say up to 250 by 250

[22:54] <Joy_Wray> I'm sure I got to that size and I was still rejected.

[22:55] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, the rejection size is not by pixels, its by how many K, and I think it is 50 K,  the limit is posted,

[22:55] <Angelica_Gwinn> 45?

[22:55] <Joy_Wray> It says 45 K.  So what is K?

[22:55] <Mario_Torres> were are you placinf the image front page ad, or a premium ad?

[22:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> 45 Kilobytes

[22:56] <Joy_Wray> Just in a classified announcement.

[22:56] <Rick_Warren> have more newstower up at www.brokenarrowportal.com

[22:57] <Mario_Torres> joy try a 300x200 and work for there

[22:58] <Rick_Warren> Tim, still don't undaer why the ads show on world news. All out of shape.

[22:58] <Rick_Warren> understand why

[22:58] <Angelica_Gwinn> Joy, if you want, you can send me the image and I'll test on my end

[22:59] <Joy_Wray> Angelica that is very sweet of you.  

[22:59] <Mario_Torres> joy what the size of the original image?

[23:00] <Joy_Wray> Another unanswered question.  All of our portals direct viewes in two places on our portal to all thos (0)'s.  Doesn't look good.  When will that be corrected?

[23:00] <Angelica_Gwinn> my pleasure Joy - I'll help in anyway I can - I am office tech support now :)

[23:00] <Jack_Piotrow> Gn everyone. Covering a lot of impressive technical stuff. Til later!

[23:00] <Angelica_Gwinn> official***

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[23:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick w, i don't see tower ads

[23:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick w, i will reinstall your rotating ads, maybe i did not do it right, it was a manual install last night to have you help me

[23:02] <Mario_Torres> Tim the button of the portal were it reads

[23:02] <Mario_Torres> Click here to view local business members of the Puerto Rico Portal

[23:02] <Mario_Torres> it take you to the Premium listing and not the local

[23:02] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, regarding the 0, are you referring to categories for business listings?

[23:02] <Joy_Wray> Thanks Mario.

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[23:03] <Joy_Wray> At the bottom of the front page and again at premium business listings.

[23:03] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Mario, ar you referring to the graphic on the front page that is gray, and says click here for premium businesses?

[23:04] <Rick_Warren> when you go to the news page  you may have to hit  refresh

[23:04] <Mario_Torres> yes they are in 0  and in the button it take you to the premiun also

[23:04] <Mario_Torres> instad of the local listing

[23:05] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Mario, that graphic on the front page, for premium businesses, is to give businesses that purchased a premium listing more exposure.

[23:05] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> more exposure thatn the free listings

[23:05] <Joy_Wray> And the premium listing button shows ALL zero listings -- not premiums.

[23:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, when you put in a premium listing, it will show a number

[23:06] <Mario_Torres> Joy if you need help email me at admin@puertoricoonline.net  I can help you with your images and listing

[23:06] <Joy_Wray> Help me now!

[23:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy,

[23:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> I sugggest you use photo impact which you can get a free trial from at ulead.com for 30 days, after that it is or you can get it in a box at best buy. I can help you on it since it is what I use also.

[23:07] <Joy_Wray> All those (0)'s that I have mentioned before Tim said you would take care of.  That wa some time ago.

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[23:07] <Danielle_Danko> Wow!  Hello Everyone!!

[23:07] <Angelica_Gwinn> hi Danielle, Tony

[23:07] <Joy_Wray> Hi, Danielle.

[23:08] <Mario_Torres> what is the original size of the image???

[23:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, someone was saying in coupons it was saying 0 when it should show a coupon was listed in that category, that may be what I thought you were referring to,

[23:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the link to the premium business listings works i am sure,

[23:08] <Dale_Cable> hi danielle,tony

[23:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hello danielle, tony

[23:08] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey Danielle

[23:08] <tony_bruno> Hello Everyone

[23:08] <Janiece_Thompson> Hey Tony

[23:08] <Danielle_Danko> H Tim

[23:08] <Danielle_Danko> Hi

[23:08] <Mario_Torres> hi tony danielle

[23:08] <Rick_Caldwell> hi Danielle

[23:09] <Joy_Wray> Try it, Tim.  I think all our sights look the same.  If I was a customer, I would wonder.

[23:09] <Rick_Warren> Tim, the rotaiting ads on world news is takeing the newstower size and put it in the Front page size. Looks like the code may be backwards

[23:09] <Rick_Caldwell> Just in time for me to say good night to everyone!

[23:09] <Danielle_Danko> Hi Angelica, Joy, Dale, Janiece, Rick, Mario

[23:09] <Rick_Caldwell> gn

[23:09] <Jonathan_Myers> GN everyone, bedtime for Bonzo....lol

[23:09] <Angelica_Gwinn> Joy, we may be able to help more expediently if we have the image

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[23:09] <Mario_Torres> night Jonathan

[23:10] <Danielle_Danko> gn Jonathan

[23:10] <Janiece_Thompson> nite Rick

[23:10] <Joy_Wray> Angelica, this is something I need to learn to do.  All I need to know is what classifieds is asking

[23:10] <Janiece_Thompson> Nite Jonathan

[23:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, as an example, you can go look at Rick Warrens portal, at http://brokenarrowportal.com/local/  you see hit shows there are premium businesses listed under chamber of commerce, advertising, automotive,

[23:10] <Danielle_Danko> Joy, I have nice size photos on my car classified, I will go and look to see what size they are

[23:10] <Joy_Wray> How am I going to help others with their classifieds -- if anyone ever wants to use them?

[23:11] <Jonathan_Myers> ;)

[23:11] <Mario_Torres> joy try this make a box 200x100 save it in my picture folder make a classified g to upload an image and load the image and check it how it came out

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[23:12] <Rick_Warren> Tim, Mario ads are doing the same thing on the world news page

[23:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, ok, checking

[23:12] <Danielle_Danko> ok, maybe i wont.  Tim, my car ad disappeared off the front page and when I click on classifieds it shows up as auto quantitiy one, but when I click on it - there is no ad...

[23:12] <Angelica_Gwinn> Rick I see what you mean

[23:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, the cron may have not run yet,

[23:14] <Joy_Wray> There appear to be many glitches in classifieds so I'm very reluctant to encourage anyone to use them.

[23:15] <Joy_Wray> But this would be a great way to get people to use the portal.  Right?

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, yes,

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i don't think there are very many glitches

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if any

[23:15] <Danielle_Danko> It was there for weeks already and now just disappeared, but in admin it says it there and not suspended and doesnt end until the 16th

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> we worked a year on that, and had lots of people doing live testing

[23:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, how long did you have the ad set to run

[23:16] <Mario_Torres> Joy I made a couple of clssified and had no problem just pratice a little

[23:16] <Angelica_Gwinn> Joy I have a 300x226 here: http://patersoncityportal.com/paterson-nj-classifieds/postings/n9d8vz8o.html

[23:16] <Joy_Wray> Mario, it is not me.  I used to think that and gave you all the benefit of the doubt.  But there are glitches.  How do you explain -- without touching the ad -- the disappearance of the name and address at the top of one of 5 coupons?

[23:16] <Danielle_Danko> for the full 45 days, and this was one of  the first classifieds I put up, it has been there until today

[23:17] <Danielle_Danko> the expiration date is the 16th of this month

[23:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, did you at any time edit the classified ad after placing it?

[23:17] <Danielle_Danko> no

[23:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, because if you do you have to remember to reset the time you want it to run, its always 10 days by default

[23:18] <Joy_Wray> And why should we have to tell anyone using the classifieds -- like my animal shelter listings -- that they have to change the listing time each time they edit?  

[23:18] <Danielle_Danko> i know, but it was set at 45 days, and has been there all along and shows in admin not expiring until the 16th

[23:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, the name and address cannot dissappear from a coupon unless you edit it

[23:18] <Mario_Torres> joy when I started I did not know anything about html, uplaod and all that, Tim help me any I pratice and pratice, we were there where you are so I know how it feels,

[23:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, its on the form as to the time it is to run

[23:18] <Joy_Wray> I did not touch it.  I merely went to print it to hand out.

[23:18] <Mario_Torres> but we can help you

[23:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, what ws the title of the ad

[23:19] <Joy_Wray> Mario, I am no dummy.  There are glitches."

[23:21] <Danielle_Danko> 2002 Chrysler Sebring Convertible  low miles

[23:21] <Danielle_Danko> under for sale used cars

[23:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, i am looking in your database for it

[23:25] <Janiece_Thompson> GN All

[23:25] <Danielle_Danko> GN Janiece

[23:25] <Danielle_Danko> Have a good weekend

[23:25] <Janiece_Thompson> u 2

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[23:26] <Joy_Wray> Moving on to the next concern.  I believe our portals are to be for the benefit of the community.  We need to encourage use of the portal by the community.  I was told by a perspective portal director that the front page looked like nothing but ads.  Now it is going to look like even more advertising.  This is not going to attract more readers, is it?

[23:26] <Danielle_Danko> ok Tim, its the 3rd one from the bottom

[23:27] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, there are the same amount of ads in the "above the fold" as there has always been

[23:27] <Danielle_Danko> Joy, I missed something.. What else is added now to look like more advertising?

[23:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the important parts are the weather, the calender, the links to the different areas, and the news

[23:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> also the search engine for our busiensses, and the google search engine are n the same place as always

[23:28] <Joy_Wray> But with the revolving business cards, it looks very unattractive.  Can we opt out of the business cards?

[23:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, yes I can make an option to turn off the revolving cards.  Keep in mind, you can instead use them for community content, such as local parks information, scouts, schools, etc.

[23:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if youd on't want to use them for ads, consider it space to provide more useful services

[23:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> and if you don't want them to revolve, post only 1 ad

[23:30] <kelvin--brown> gn

[23:30] <Joy_Wray> Thanks, Tim.

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[23:30] <tony_bruno> gn all

[23:30] <Angelica_Gwinn> gn Tony

[23:31] <Danielle_Danko> Joy, my largest photo.. I just looked at them on my pc, is 389 x 292 which made it 20.9 kb

[23:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, you must remember, I am under pressure at all times to help make the portals better, and more profitable for portal directors, as well as to keep the traffic up.  I had a great demand from many  people to put rotating business cards on.  So i did.  but i set it at 3 minutes.  Then everyone demanded faster rotation, so I set it at 30 seconds.  Now they are demanding 8 seconds, and I have said I will not go to that fast of a rotation yet.

[23:31] <Danielle_Danko> gn Tony

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[23:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> keeping everyone happy on all details is not easy

[23:31] <Angelica_Gwinn> Joy I sent you a private message with my information

[23:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but certainly, I put those ads there to help, not hurt

[23:32] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> as far as more ads, there are the same amount as there were before on the "above the fold" area

[23:32] <Joy_Wray> Danielle, thank you.  I'll work on it tomorrow.

[23:32] <Danielle_Danko> your welcome, i hope that helped

[23:32] <Rick_Warren> Tim, thanks for getting us back in to the Tulsa blog

[23:35] <Rick_Warren> Joy, I have to agree with Tim on the top part of the front page It only shows the One Ad and the Top part of the BC Rotator

[23:35] <Joy_Wray> Tim, I know you are trying to do the best for us.  But when there aren't any responses to questions and pleas for help -- and for anyone with integrity -- it becomes a question of whether or not you really WANT to sell ads.  I feel a tremendous obligation to my one premium listing to make this work.  But I feel totally unsupported.

[23:35] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, the problem with the ad, is that you have them both set as premium, and both set as not paid, that is why it does not show up

[23:35] <Joy_Wray> Rick, some of us felt that the first ads were too much.

[23:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, I do my best to be in here every night to answer qeustions

[23:36] <Danielle_Danko> Tim, it was there all along, maybe since you entered my paypal info it disappeared??

[23:36] <Joy_Wray> You hear the questions and promise answers but they don't come.

[23:37] <Rick_Warren> Also its a very good idea about setting in community activies on the BC and just put in one or to ads in them

[23:37] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, are you talking about a premium business listing that you have sold already?

[23:37] <Joy_Wray> Yes.

[23:38] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, exactly what is the problem you are having creating a premium business listing?

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[23:40] <Danielle_Danko> Tim, if I go and mark it as paid, It's my ad, it says I will violate the TOS, should I do this ??

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[23:40] <Joy_Wray> Tim, no problem in creating the listing.  It's done.  I just have a problem with the fact that I accepted $1300 and I want this portal for this community to work.

[23:40] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, you will see that I activated the ads as paid, and now they show up.  If you create a premium classified ad, i twill not show up until marked as paid, which is done automatically when someone pays it.  of course you are not supposed to go in and manually mark it as paid unless you believe the person did actually pay via paypal

[23:41] <Danielle_Danko> ok, but if its me and mine I can right?

[23:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, no,

[23:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i did it to show you

[23:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> its ok to leave it for now

[23:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy,  is the parts of the portal you think are not working, the classifieds?  or is there other things also?

[23:42] <Joy_Wray> The classifieds -- for sure.  And the lack of support are undermining my confidence.

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[23:42] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, I am trying to understand what support I have not given you, i am sorry to keep asking that.

[23:42] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi jim j

[23:42] <Joy_Wray> I have to have 100% belief in what I sell.  

[23:43] <Jim_Johnson> HI Tim

[23:43] <Danielle_Danko> ok Tim, thanks

[23:43] <Danielle_Danko> for bypassing it for me

[23:43] <Jim_Johnson> I was sneaking talk at work today on radio show

[23:43] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, if you try again to create a free classified ad, and make sure you don't accept the premium option, it should show up

[23:43] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> jim j, shame on you!

[23:43] <Jim_Johnson> Like I was saying this is a really good system.

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[23:44] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, what do I haev to do to get you up to 100%

[23:44] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi dale

[23:44] <Danielle_Danko> do i need to contact you if I have any others that are only for premium?? I thought autos real estate and employment were strickly premium??

[23:44] <Jim_Johnson> The more I started to learn about it the more I see how much went into putting it together

[23:44] <Joy_Wray> Get rid of the (o)'s for one.  Where is the local author page which seems to be clicked on often?  And the classifieds which not only are inconsistent but seem to be difficult for the lay person to use.

[23:45] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, yes, real estate and auto are strickly premium.  Since these ads you placed were in auto, you did not have the choice to create a free listing,

[23:45] <Danielle_Danko> so I would need to contact you if I have to sell another, like my husbands car or something, just to let you know its me?

[23:45] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, the 0 is not a problem, or a glitch, as i said, did you look at brokenarrowportal.com as an example?

[23:45] <Joy_Wray> Tim, I want this to work so much.  I see a real future and a great income.  But instead of offering us more avenues of income, can we not build a firmer foundation with what we have?

[23:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, we tested the heck out of the classifieds for a year, i am sure they are working order

[23:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, the authors is under upgrade, are you aware that at any given time we have 10 programs we are upgrading or adding?  If you want there to never be anything under constructrion, then I will have to just quit improving the portal.  such as the new 16 ads i just put out,

[23:46] <Joy_Wray> What do you mean the (O)'s are not a problem.  Click on the blue line at the bottom of my portal -- as well as most everyone else -- and you get (0)s.  How to build confidence in a perspective customer!

[23:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, that is the page that gives the premium busienss listing customers more exposure.  its more incentive for them to buy a premium listing

[23:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, go look at brokenarrowportal.com/local please

[23:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> please

[23:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> please

[23:47] <Joy_Wray> Not when they see no one else has.

[23:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, the portals were like this when you signed up, you saw what you were getting

[23:48] <Angelica_Gwinn> I have to run out for a few minutes - I'll check back in when I come back - if I miss you, good night

[23:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn angelica

[23:48] <Joy_Wray> Tim, you can't be serious.  There was so much to learn how was I to know what to look for.

[23:49] <Jim_Johnson> I am using that to explain to prospects that they are getting pre launch pricing with me

[23:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, do you want me to just stop improving the portal, take out everything you dont' like and leave it as it is forever?

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[23:49] <Jim_Johnson> I will have higher prices as sposts become populated

[23:49] <Joy_Wray> It wouldn't have meant a thing to me.  

[23:50] <Rick_Warren> Joy are you talking about the zero in the classifed site.

[23:50] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> If you don't want a 0 in the business listings, dont' create a category until you have a listing for it

[23:50] <Joy_Wray> No.

[23:51] <Rick_Warren> I see then you are talking about the business listing  as Tim said above

[23:51] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> do you want the area remove that shows only premium business listings?

[23:51] <Joy_Wray> Tim, I have NOT created a category without a listing.

[23:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, in the free business listings, you have no 0's

[23:52] <Joy_Wray> That's not what I'm talking about.

[23:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> I know, you are taking about the page that shows premium business listings only

[23:52] <Jim_Johnson> For me that is the best part. I am showing people how they are geting in on the ground floor and taking advantage of entry level pricing

[23:53] <Jim_Johnson> Beating the price increase

[23:54] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, what if at the top of the page that shows premium business listings, i have alink that says, to see "ALL" business listings click here

[23:54] <Joy_Wray> Tim, at the bottom of my portal it says "click here to view local business members of the Sun Valley Idaho Portal."  That's when you get the zeros.  You also get the zeros at the top where it says click for premium listings.  Zeros'  I really would like to get those filled in but it's going to take awhile!'

[23:55] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, yes, that is the premium business listings only, to give busiensses that buy a listing more exposure

[23:55] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, what if i could ad a graphic that is very visible taht says, "this page is PREMIUM BUSINESSES only, but CLICK HERE to sell ALL busienss listings"

[23:55] <Joy_Wray> That's great when they are a premium listing.  I agree.  But all these are not.

[23:56] <Danielle_Danko> Tim, maybe with that section, could it possibly just show the premium ads only that were created?  Like they look when you actually view them in a catagory, the picture?  Is there a way to set it up like that?

[23:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> maybe

[23:56] <Joy_Wray> Well there must be an answer.  Because as a customer, I would question it.

[23:56] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, what if i could ad a graphic that is very visible taht says, "this page is PREMIUM BUSINESSES only, but CLICK HERE to sell ALL busienss listings"

[23:57] <Joy_Wray> That might work.

[23:57] <Joy_Wray> It used to show when you clicked on premium listings --just premium listings -- didn't it.

[23:57] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> never

[23:57] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i mean

[23:58] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> it showed all categories but only listed the premium listings

[23:58] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the way ti is now is the way it has been since we introduced the classifieds

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[23:58] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi ed

[23:58] <Danielle_Danko> I think I know what is keeping Joy abay about this.. I had a plumber the other day mention he knew I was just getting started, even though I have 2 premiums up there and 3 cards and tons of classifieds, so maybe if people are actually taking the time to view catagories each at a time, it looks like there arent many people putting ads on, and why should they?

[23:59] <Dale_Cable> hi ed

[23:59] <Danielle_Danko> Hi Ed

[23:59] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, yes, thats why you explain how you are getting all the local businesses involved, BlueFunnelConcept.com

[23:59] <Ed_Bremer> hello

[23:59] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> that once they are involved it will be much busier

[23:59] <Danielle_Danko> I know why, but they dont just by looking unless they study it for an hour or had our presentation

[00:00] <Joy_Wray> Hi, Ed.  

[00:00] <Ed_Bremer> hi Joy

[00:00] <Rick_Warren> Tim, I Understand where Joy is coming from on the link it's going to the pruium listing business  and not to the free listing

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[00:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, thats why I have counts listed so they can see what kind of activity there has been.  such as count of home pages set, and count of how many searches in business listings, and searches in classifieds

[00:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick, yes, I undertand that, which was to give more exposure to those buy premium listings, however,

[00:01] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> what if i could ad a graphic that is very visible taht says, "this page is PREMIUM BUSINESSES only, but CLICK HERE to sell ALL busienss listings"

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[00:02] <Danielle_Danko> I know, but you know some people just dont pay attention to alot of details, but I am making sure I let everyone know those numbers as well as unique user and return user numbers

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[00:02] <Joy_Wray> Why not just eliminate the invitation at the bottom of the front page.  If they're interested, they can just click on business listings.

[00:02] <Danielle_Danko> I personally love the counts lists, but I am a organizational freak and look at everything

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[00:03] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> someone is being funny

[00:03] <Danielle_Danko> what the heck is that

[00:04] <Rick_Warren> How hard would it be to link the to free-businesses listing page. either way and/or just put two links on the page/

[00:04] <Danielle_Danko> Tim, did you know if I search google or something these chats come up?

[00:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, these are public meetings, the logs get picked up.  if you use the 24 hour support area that cannot be searched and is only accessible by active portal directors

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[00:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick, do you mean have that link on the front go to the page with the free listings, and then at the top of the free listings  have a graphic that says click here to sell Premium Businesses?

[00:06] <Danielle_Danko> I personally am not comfortable with others reading some stuff, but that just me

[00:07] <Danielle_Danko> just didnt know if u knew

[00:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yes

[00:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i could put it under log in access only

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[00:08] <Joy_Wray> Danielle, when you say "counts list," what are you referring to?

[00:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick, do you mean have that link on the front go to the page with the free listings, and then at the top of the free listings  have a graphic that says click here to sell Premium Businesses?

[00:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> not sell

[00:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> excuse me

[00:08] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> to see

[00:09] <Danielle_Danko> Everyone, if your at all interested in vinyl banners, I just had 3 done for a whopping $29. and they are 2 x 4 feet, nice and sturdy and free shipping.  I am using 2 to hang at the Little League fields and one to keep with me when I go out myself -such as the flea market the church is having next week

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[00:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> wow

[00:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> nice

[00:09] <Danielle_Danko> joy, the count that show how many people actually searched for business on your portal

[00:09] <Rick_Warren> That sounds good. at least that way when people click on that link It will show several listing if we have done our job in getting the free listings in the Portal

[00:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[00:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i can change it to that

[00:10] <Ed_Bremer> great

[00:10] <Joy_Wray> You mean in awstats?

[00:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Joy, no, the public count that shows how many searches for local businesses have been done

[00:10] <Danielle_Danko> yes

[00:10] <Danielle_Danko> not awstats what tim said

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[00:11] <Rick_Warren> Joy will that change help?

[00:11] <Joy_Wray> O.K.  I give.  Where is that?

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[00:11] <Danielle_Danko> when you click on business listings

[00:11] <Danielle_Danko> right up top

[00:11] <Danielle_Danko> you'll see the number of how many searches were done

[00:11] <Danielle_Danko> just for business though

[00:11] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Ok, so here is waht I am going to do. I will change the link on the front page that says "click here for premium businesses"  the gray graphic with the award symbols, to link to the free business listings page, and then at the top of that page have a graphic that says "click here to sell PREMIUM BUSINESSES"

[00:12] <Rick_Warren> Three or Five lines up

[00:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> SEE

[00:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> not sell

[00:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> sorry

[00:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> see premium businesses

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[00:13] <Danielle_Danko> that sounds good, and when the click on to see the premiums the ads will show up as shown or the counts again?

[00:13] <Joy_Wray> Thank you, Tim.

[00:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, i don't understand that statement

[00:13] <Ed_Bremer> that would be much better

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[00:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i will do it with this upgrade for the ads, which means it may delay me until tommorrow

[00:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Money, knock it off

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[00:14] <Danielle_Danko> what i said before, about that link to the premium, could it show the premiums that were already created like they look instead of catagories, that way it looks like we have ads instead of numbers

[00:15] <Danielle_Danko> who's money?

[00:15] <Joy_Wray> Good idea, Danielle.

[00:15] <Rick_Warren> Tim,  I was talking about the link at the bottom "Click here to view local business members of the Broken Arrow Oklahoma Portal" This link takes them to the Pruiems listing page with all the zero. Change it to the free business listing

[00:15] <Rick_Warren> This is at the very bottom of the page

[00:17] <Ed_Bremer> hi Michelle

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[00:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, ok, the text link, and the graphic link right?

[00:18] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> thats what i meant

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[00:19] <Rick_Warren> Joy where you talking about both links and/or the bottom link

[00:19] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, do you mean, link to an actual premium listing instead of a directory of premium listings?

[00:20] <Danielle_Danko> yes, it would look nicer I think, even if they are all put on one page just to show we have listings

[00:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> oh

[00:20] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hm

[00:21] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> interesting concept

[00:21] <Danielle_Danko> then I think it would intrige folks

[00:21] <Danielle_Danko> to keep searching

[00:21] <Danielle_Danko> all the time

[00:21] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok if we do that, how should the ads be organized? alphabetically

[00:21] <Danielle_Danko> also alittle competition involved

[00:22] <Danielle_Danko> if thats possible, if not I dont have a problem with them all just showing up, this way when they actually search regular listings they will view them as well

[00:22] <Angelica_Gwinn> finally caught with this interesting topic

[00:22] <Danielle_Danko> and know of the concept..

[00:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok if we do that, how should the ads be organized? alphabetically

[00:23] <Danielle_Danko> & maybe on that page link, we could also put some fillers ourselves or put the rotator there if each individual director wanted

[00:23] <Angelica_Gwinn> Tim - from a programming perspective, why not just number the categories and then you can program to pick up and list the categories that have premium listings

[00:23] <Danielle_Danko> like the bottom page ad

[00:24] <Danielle_Danko> I want the physical add showing

[00:24] <Joy_Wray> I vote alphabetically.

[00:24] <Danielle_Danko> so people see we have them

[00:25] <Danielle_Danko> some folks wont look at my salon catagory and might never know I have a premium ad there if they dont click it

[00:25] <Danielle_Danko> but they will see what we offer if they see a page of nice premiums

[00:25] <Dale_Cable> so what if people think they have to look through all ads to find what they want?

[00:25] <Danielle_Danko> without knowing what a premium is

[00:25] <Angelica_Gwinn> I was giving it some thought when I left and I realized that since every portal has different categories it would be impossible to write a program for all the portals, but if you number them, then you can use the number for "if" "then" syntax

[00:26] <Rick_Warren> Like the idea of going to the free business listing page it and have a link on it the our premium list page

[00:26] <Angelica_Gwinn> and you can use the bottom link to list all actual premiums as Danielle is saying

[00:27] <Danielle_Danko> it look better for business if we actually have business' to look at from prospective clients or community members

[00:27] <Danielle_Danko> and i am not talking about taking there time away, its mainly the point that some will never know we do that if they dont physically see it

[00:28] <Danielle_Danko> and i have not contacted them, you know the guy down the block - maybe he has a nephew who is a photographer or something and says hey, i saw this site and they do great ads

[00:29] <Danielle_Danko> but if he has no use for a salon, he'll never know we have nice ads because he doesnt click on it, he only clicks on medical and i dont have one there

[00:29] <Danielle_Danko> get it Dale..

[00:30] <Danielle_Danko> Am I making sense ??

[00:30] <Angelica_Gwinn> my mouse is acting, I may have to reboot

[00:30] <Danielle_Danko> Sometimes it hard for me to communicate properly when typing

[00:31] <Danielle_Danko> Tim??? R u brainstorming??

[00:31] <Angelica_Gwinn> I think we lost him Danielle (in thought)

[00:31] <Danielle_Danko> lol

[00:32] <Danielle_Danko> I'll just keep babbling then

[00:32] <Angelica_Gwinn> lol

[00:32] <Danielle_Danko> I cant believe its 12:30!

[00:33] <Danielle_Danko> no one answered.. Who is money?

[00:33] <Joy_Wray> Well, thank you all for all your input.  I think we got some things accomplished tonight.  At least I feel better.  So night all.  

[00:33] <Angelica_Gwinn> I am going to reboot hopefully that fixes my mouse issue, otherwise I can to find another one

[00:33] <Angelica_Gwinn> someone logged on as money and Tim killed it

[00:33] <Ed_Bremer> even 9:30 feels late here Danielle

[00:33] <Angelica_Gwinn> lucky you Ed

[00:34] <Danielle_Danko> gn Joy, I am happy u feel alittle better

[00:34] <Joy_Wray> Angelica, if I come back tonight -- it's not me!!!

[00:34] <Danielle_Danko> lol

[00:34] <Angelica_Gwinn> lol Joy

[00:34] <Rick_Warren> Danielle don't understand were you can come from

[00:34] <Joy_Wray> Thanks Danielle.

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[00:34] <Danielle_Danko> what do you mean rick?

[00:35] <Danielle_Danko> Hey Ed, where has Marvin been?

[00:36] <Angelica_Gwinn> I have an optical mouse, does it have to be facing the computer?

[00:36] <Rick_Warren> If I'm not look for a salon I really don't care if you have a nice ad for a salon if I'm  looking for a movie ad

[00:36] <Ed_Bremer> not my turn to watch him...just kidding

[00:36] <Danielle_Danko> true, but you will definately notice we do nice ads and possibly mention it to others, that we dont just look like a flat directory

[00:37] <Danielle_Danko> and if you see an add listed in full, maybe you'll mention that ad to someone in conversation

[00:37] <Angelica_Gwinn> Ed, do you do comedy on the side? :)

[00:37] <Danielle_Danko> possibly your wife, neighbor, others

[00:38] <Danielle_Danko> ok, Ed Kiss my ***

[00:38] <Rick_Warren> Where are you wanting this ads to be placed?

[00:38] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> sorry, i am on phone

[00:38] <Angelica_Gwinn> np Tim

[00:38] <Danielle_Danko> in the link that says click here to view premium listings, all the premiums show up like they actually look

[00:38] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i told her i would be out of meeting at 11,

[00:39] <Danielle_Danko> Ha, that didnt work :)

[00:39] <Angelica_Gwinn> I remember that Tim :)

[00:40] <Angelica_Gwinn> this mouse is bugging

[00:40] <Angelica_Gwinn> grrr

[00:40] <Ed_Bremer> life is so sad

[00:40] <Rick_Warren> So what you are ssaying this that when someone clicks of the the premium listing link it show all the premium ads on the page it pull up?

[00:41] <Rick_Warren> shows

[00:41] <Danielle_Danko> Rick for instance, say my wonderful husband, who is a definate Man's man..  views my cool premium salon listing with the great logo they have and reads alittle- knows this is my cup of tea, and goes and gets me a gift cert. for mothers day.. He would have never know that place exsisted if he didnt see the full ad while looking blindly at all the premiums

[00:41] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> if we did that, how would we organize them?

[00:42] <Danielle_Danko> yes

[00:42] <Angelica_Gwinn> Tim we would still have the other option with the listing by category right?

[00:42] <Angelica_Gwinn> otherwise, selling the spot would not work

[00:42] <Danielle_Danko> I dont think it need organizing really, just a nice page of nice adds, then they can go to the catagories later if they want to view all salons or whatever

[00:43] <Angelica_Gwinn> Tim, you can call those featured business

[00:43] <Danielle_Danko> of course it would work, they are still going to show above everyone else in their specified catagory

[00:44] <Ed_Bremer> how about a brows all premiums button

[00:44] <Angelica_Gwinn> like in the yellow page book

[00:44] <Rick_Warren> As Tim say this will cause alot of organizational problems if you have very many premium listing in the portal of all different size and etc.

[00:45] <Rick_Warren> Load time could get very slow and people will leave

[00:45] <Angelica_Gwinn> Danielle I thought you were talking about having an additional link to all the ads

[00:45] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> angelica, the option of the free business listings would be exactly the same,

[00:45] <Danielle_Danko> why?  you can't just link those to one page regardless of size, look at the bottom page ads we can use, we put whatever in there like a blank page??

[00:45] <Angelica_Gwinn> Rick, not if in a separate link

[00:46] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> reading back to catch up

[00:46] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok

[00:46] <Ed_Bremer> that's true Rick--Chandler ads used to take forever to load

[00:47] <Danielle_Danko> yeah, regardless of adding one extra page or not

[00:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, maybe,

[00:47] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> we could link it to show premium listings, and have the most recent show up at the top

[00:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but

[00:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hm

[00:48] <Dale_Cable> The portals value is its traffic .It is very easy to use now as is and if you change things to show off ads and lose users what have you gained?You have a chance to sit with a business owener and explain the portal you don"t with the local user.

[00:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> not sure joy will go for that

[00:48] <Rick_Warren> So then what we are talk is a listing page the has the business names with links to the pruimem page

[00:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you all did see we have search boxes that search only premium listings right?

[00:48] <Angelica_Gwinn> yes

[00:48] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you should be showing that to your premium listing clients

[00:49] <Rick_Warren> Yes

[00:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hm

[00:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[00:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> maybe

[00:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hm

[00:49] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i am stuck

[00:49] <Danielle_Danko> my point exactly!!  Why would you lose users, if anything you would gain users, your showing them we offer more than just the list of business

[00:50] <Danielle_Danko> but we have to worry about the local users, they are a part of the community that is searching for listings

[00:51] <Danielle_Danko> i am not just worrying about selling

[00:51] <Danielle_Danko> i want everyone to view the site and want to use it for many reasons

[00:51] <Ed_Bremer> good point

[00:52] <Danielle_Danko> Some things are better to see than explain too, especially to those you cant visit with or the guy who does have a business

[00:52] <Danielle_Danko> but knows someone who does or is just stopping by to see what were all about

[00:52] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok i am lost here

[00:52] <Danielle_Danko> then he in turn will tell his friends or wife or kids or the dog

[00:53] <Angelica_Gwinn> where did we lose you Tim?

[00:53] <Rick_Warren> Danielle again I'm lost .

[00:53] <Danielle_Danko> i meant doesnt have a business

[00:53] <Danielle_Danko> rick, i was just re-explaining

[00:53] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the gray graphic and text link that goes to premium businesses, you want it to link to a list of premium listings, not a directory of premium listings, right?

[00:54] <Danielle_Danko> if I didnt know a thing about the portal- and all i saw was a list of business, like the yellow book, but my good friend owns a salon, why would i ever tell her about the site?

[00:54] <Angelica_Gwinn> that is what I gather Tim

[00:54] <Danielle_Danko> yes Tim

[00:55] <Rick_Warren> When I go to the business list in our portal and click on Resturants in the Business Listing. It take me to all the resturants in the portal

[00:55] <Danielle_Danko> Yes, but if you dont have a premium for a rest. then how would you know that a premium listing even exists??

[00:56] <Angelica_Gwinn> those are the premium tabs Rick but we have to have a list of categories because we don't have a tab for all the categories

[00:56] <Rick_Warren> any that have brought a priuem listing for a restutant show at the top before free

[00:56] <Dale_Cable> if you don't have one it don't

[00:57] <Angelica_Gwinn> yes Rick

[00:57] <Angelica_Gwinn> but we don't have a tab for all the categories

[00:57] <Danielle_Danko> also with the Tabs, I think if someone clicks on the premium tabs and nothing shows up its confusing because nothings there, but yet they are suppossed to be physic and know to look under free listings?

[00:58] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Danielle, you can choose to have free listings show under the tabs

[00:58] <Rick_Warren> What tabs are you talking about?

[00:58] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i think she means the 9 tabs at the top of the portal

[00:58] <Danielle_Danko> i know, but I am trying to make a point

[00:58] <Dale_Cable> you can put free in tabs your choice

[00:58] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i would suggest that you let free listings go under the tabs,

[00:59] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the premiums will show up above the free ones

[00:59] <Danielle_Danko> that everyone is not going to spend the time to look at everything... and if they dont know about what a premium ads is or what one looks like then, they will never tell the guy next door.

[00:59] <Rick_Warren> I Have  alll add a cato in the business listing the include the top 9 tabs

[01:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok, what if i have the gray link on the front page, click to a list of premium ads, and have them in order of most recent, and at the top a link to click to see all premium listings under categories, and a search box to search premium listings only, or all listings including free ones,

[01:00] <Ed_Bremer> I talk to a few PD that did not know to click new listings and see all

[01:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or

[01:00] <Danielle_Danko> ok, I am going to quit talking, You have to understand, that we all know the portal..The guy down the block doesnt and if he doesnt spend the time to really look around, he really is not getting all of it features

[01:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i can have it show ALL business listings, but have the premium ones at the top

[01:00] <Ed_Bremer> so where does that leave surfers

[01:00] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, i am trying to understand

[01:01] <Danielle_Danko> Tim,  thats sounds WONDERFUL!!!

[01:01] <Ed_Bremer> yes-great

[01:02] <Danielle_Danko> I think what you said first would be great

[01:02] <Danielle_Danko> Is everyone else following??

[01:03] <Rick_Warren> I quess what I don't undersitand if we don't have any pruium listing in the portall nothing is going to help someone that is not use to the portal

[01:04] <Angelica_Gwinn> I am going to reboot brb

[01:04] <Danielle_Danko> then they will see all the regular ads and free listings, but until you have a nice premium I think thats all they will think we can do

[01:05] <Rick_Warren> Danielle Going happen when you get 100's of 1000s of premiun listing in the portal and what you would like to happen?

[01:05] <Danielle_Danko> same thing applies to the business card rotator, if your not putting anything up .. then all they see is an ad to advertise, in this case they would see listings

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[01:07] <Danielle_Danko> First of all, I dont think that is even possible to have that many and still have the page properly function, look you were worrying about this one page being added and being slower , so how would it handle 100's of them?

[01:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[01:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> i can have it show 20 per page

[01:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> with links to the next page

[01:07] <Danielle_Danko> but to answer you question,  maybe put a limit of the last 30 created or something

[01:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> so have it show all businesse listings, free and premium, with the most recent at the top, but the premium listings show first,

[01:07] <Danielle_Danko> that sounds nice

[01:08] <Danielle_Danko> i like just premium, this way you can leave your icon in the center of the business cards and the premium will display upon being clicked

[01:08] <Danielle_Danko> and your sentence as you stated above

[01:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but then, for those that don't have premiums sold yet, they will complain it links to nothing

[01:09] <Rick_Warren> That could be very well have we  are in a location that has over a  100,000 business

[01:09] <Angelica_Gwinn> I have a suggestion for that Tim

[01:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you can sell it as a link so people can check every day to see who the newest premium busienss is

[01:09] <Danielle_Danko> Tim, I dont have any sold yet, but I have 2 there because I pay for them,  how hard is it to create 2 free ones

[01:09] <Danielle_Danko> everyone know someone in business right?

[01:10] <Dale_Cable> tim where are we on the PBC for hawthorne mazdz?

[01:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle yes, but, i have to deal with all kinds of personalities,

[01:10] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Dale, oh my!!! its on my list right here in front of me to do, i will get on it

[01:10] <Dale_Cable> ty tim

[01:12] <Rick_Warren> So far as the Business card rotator Its up the each PD to deciede if we want the ad to advertise or do we want to put something in it place

[01:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick, yes,

[01:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> its free for you

[01:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you could rotate all kinds of information about the local town

[01:12] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or you could do every other one

[01:13] <Danielle_Danko> Tim, I will personally help anyone create their 2 or whatever listings, just so they have some up there.

[01:13] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> that is kind of you danielle

[01:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but

[01:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> you could get swamped

[01:14] <Danielle_Danko> It's nice to show someone and if someone asks its there right?  Unfortunately I have a small town, but I immediately put up 2, just to have them

[01:14] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> right

[01:14] <Danielle_Danko> I am always swamped

[01:14] <Danielle_Danko> but it would be nice to help

[01:15] <Danielle_Danko> Rick, you dont have any premiums up on your site?

[01:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, if they just use the templates, listen to the video on each step, its very easy to create a premium listing

[01:15] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> rick does, type broken in his search engine

[01:15] <Danielle_Danko> I know, thats why I put them up there fast

[01:16] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> the problem is, they want to advance to master HTML and graphics user the first day

[01:16] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> but they can just stick with our library of graphics, and templates, and make a very nice ad

[01:16] <Danielle_Danko> yeah, well miracle usually dont happen to busy folks

[01:16] <Danielle_Danko> miracles

[01:17] <Danielle_Danko> if only there were 72 hours a day

[01:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ha ha

[01:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yes

[01:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or 10 days in a week

[01:17] <Danielle_Danko> definately

[01:17] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> or 10 clones

[01:18] <Danielle_Danko> I cant master html at all yet, but I think I did ok, with my salon ad and the other I used the template for my engineer, he was quite happy, and its free for him so thats even better.

[01:19] <Danielle_Danko> He helps me in return with telling his customers about the site

[01:19] <Danielle_Danko> and I am happy for now with getting the word out

[01:21] <Danielle_Danko> Ok, well I think I am going to call it a night, my husband is just coming home from work....  Tim, I went to archives yesterday, but they weren't updated..Could you possibly do that after the other 90 million things you have to do??

[01:22] <Rick_Warren> Danielle, I still think it will load slower.  But do thing its possiable to have 100 or 1000's of premuim listing.

[01:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> danielle, your ads look very nice

[01:23] <Danielle_Danko> Thank you everyone for a very productive and eventful evening, please have a wonderful weekend :)))!!!

[01:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yes iw ill updated

[01:23] <Danielle_Danko> ty tim

[01:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> update

[01:23] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn

[01:23] <Angelica_Gwinn> ty Tim

[01:23] <Angelica_Gwinn> gn Danielle

[01:23] <Danielle_Danko> Rick, that one page is going to make it slower, but having 100's wont?

[01:24] <Danielle_Danko> whats the difference if you have individual 100'sss or a measly 20 on one page along with 80 others

[01:24] <Danielle_Danko> ?

[01:24] <Danielle_Danko> sorry, had to answer that

[01:25] <Danielle_Danko> Ebay and myspace and tons of other sites work just find with tons of ads and people and whatever, not saying that were myspace or anything but if it needs to be faster then thats something we will have to deal with, especially when there are more cities added and more viewers everyday and more directors, which I think is the point .. To make this big

[01:26] <Danielle_Danko> then adjustments will have to be made

[01:26] <Danielle_Danko> but one page, is a far cry

[01:28] <Danielle_Danko> and besides, Tim knows what he's doing, and plans on having 100's or 1000's of portal directors some day, and he will need more servers or bigger equipment to satisfy the need to take the GLOBE by storm :)

[01:28] <Rick_Warren> My vote for now is that we link to the current business listing pages and put our preiums page in their

[01:28] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> Rick, it would not load slower, because I can set it to only bring up the first 10 or 20 listings, like you do now when you click on a tab

[01:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> with links at the bottom to go to the next page

[01:29] <Rick_Warren> But your right about Tim, when that day come we all will have to make the adjustments?

[01:29] <Danielle_Danko> ok, with that said ... Gn

[01:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> it would be the same as clicking on a tab,

[01:29] <Danielle_Danko> Tim, thanks again :)

[01:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yw

[01:29] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn

[01:29] <Danielle_Danko> gn

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[01:30] <Rick_Warren> Tim, be sure to check lthe world news page aa its does look like iits in backwards

[01:31] <Rick_Warren> Gn

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[01:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> backwards?

[01:31] <Angelica_Gwinn> Tim thank you so much for everything -

[01:31] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> yw

[01:31] <Angelica_Gwinn> Tim I know what Rick meant

[01:31] <Angelica_Gwinn> if you click on the news on his portal

[01:32] <Angelica_Gwinn> then click on the link to the other news on top - it all gets distorted

[01:34] <Angelica_Gwinn> gn everyone - Tim thanks again

[01:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> gn

[01:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> oh

[01:36] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> ok

[01:37] <Dale_Cable> gn all

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[11:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi jim

[11:09] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> are you ready

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[21:51] <Mario_Torres> hi Tim I left a message very important in the live chat some portal are down??

[21:53] <Mario_Torres> forget it I just saw them up again

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[22:00] <Joy_Wray> Hi, Dale!

[22:00] <Dale_Cable> hi everyone

[22:00] <Mario_Torres> Hi Joy and Dale

[22:01] <Joy_Wray> Hi, Mario.

[22:01] <Mario_Torres> joy did you find out how to resize the image???

[22:01] <Joy_Wray> I didn't work on it today, Mario.  Have another project going on.

[22:02] <Joy_Wray> So, Mario, how was your day down there in beautiful Puerto Rico?

[22:02] <Mario_Torres> ok I making a video on this subject it will be ready by monday i will explane it set by step

[22:03] <Joy_Wray> Video on what?

[22:03] <Mario_Torres> very but very hot

[22:03] <Mario_Torres> resizing images

[22:03] <Joy_Wray> That would be great!

[22:03] <Joy_Wray> Does the Puerto Rico Sheraton still stand in Santurce?

[22:04] <Mario_Torres> also I will be making this week a video on how to edit the front page

[22:04] <Joy_Wray> You have a lot of work to do!

[22:04] <Mario_Torres> no they move to Isla Verde

[22:04] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> hi all

[22:05] <Mario_Torres> yes I try to help the new and old directory so tim can do hios thing

[22:05] <Joy_Wray> Mario, the very best thing you could do, step by step, is to show how FTP works.

[22:05] <Mario_Torres> hi tim

[22:05] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, i think i have the auto installer ready with the new 16 ads,

[22:05] <Mario_Torres> cool

[22:05] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> everyone, this update is also fixing the problem where you cannot suspend a business listing

[22:05] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> and it changes the link on the front page to the premium listings

[22:05] <Mario_Torres> its in one of the video am doing placeing images and uplaoding

[22:06] <Joy_Wray> Sounds like you both are working hard, as usual.

[22:06] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, i can update your portal to see if you like it

[22:06] <Mario_Torres> I help Tim to make the portal directors happy

[22:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> mario yes you do. Angelica has also been hired to help in the 24 hour support

[22:07] <Joy_Wray> Honestly, I liked it before there were ads there in the middle -- where it said just click on premium listings.  When I see too much advertising on a site, I leave.  It turns me off.  Maybe I'm rare!

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[22:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> joy, put local city informatoin on there then

[22:07] <Angelica_Gwinn> good evening

[22:07] <Joy_Wray> O. K.

[22:07] <Tim_Drobnick_Sr> everyone i am going to restart the chat server, it will kick you out come right back

[22:08] <Angelica_Gwinn> ok

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